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from my point of view, I think I don't spend enough time with her... For what reason a tulpa don't want to be with their host ?

Or maybe it was just an intrusive thought... Keep in mind you decide.

BlastKiller

from my point of view, I think I don't spend enough time with her... For what reason a tulpa don't want to be with their host ?

you think you don't spend enough time with her, so your mind has generated a response that is in line with that belief

7:09 PM

@BlastKiller why do you think you don't spend enough time with her? What's your perspective on the idea of 'enough' time, how much time do you think is enough, and (most importantly) why?

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

you think you don't spend enough time with her, so your mind has generated a response that is in line with that belief

Oh that seems to be true. I should write down my sane belief to stay focus

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

@BlastKiller why do you think you don't spend enough time with her? What's your perspective on the idea of 'enough' time, how much time do you think is enough, and (most importantly) why?

I feel "weird" when I "feel to be with my tulpa". That's kind of great feeling but I'm disturbed, maybe my shyness

BlastKiller

from my point of view, I think I don't spend enough time with her... For what reason a tulpa don't want to be with their host ?

I'll sound like a captain Obvious here, but why don't you try to ask your tulpa? In one way or another, they can respond to you with a simple "yes/no", if they are not vocal. Nevertheless, that might not even be your tulpa. As was said before, our mind can generate things out of thin air, our fears and passing thoughts.

yeah I still have fear (not only about tulpa, I fear things in general way, I'm working on myself to stop being afraid)

7:15 PM

thanks, I will work on my beliefs and my fears.

@BlastKiller There's no set amount of time you have to spend with a tulpa. You can take things at your own pace, whatever amount of time that means for you ^w^

7:19 PM

you can change that amount of time as your circumstances and feelings change, too

7:20 PM

keep a watch our for sneaky beliefs like "I don't spend enough time with my tulpa"... they can shape your experience in a negative way. But you pick what beliefs you want to have so that the experience is one that suits you ^w^

Should I use my native tongue (French) with my tulpa (is it easier?) or English (because I feel comfortable in English too, and living in a French country, I want to "separate my mind" by different tongue (French with real people, English for tulpa(s)). What do you think ? The voices I hear are mostly in French ... but my mind voice is sometime French, sometime English, so I'm a bit lost and confused sometime.

BlastKiller

Should I use my native tongue (French) with my tulpa (is it easier?) or English (because I feel comfortable in English too, and living in a French country, I want to "separate my mind" by different tongue (French with real people, English for tulpa(s)). What do you think ? The voices I hear are mostly in French ... but my mind voice is sometime French, sometime English, so I'm a bit lost and confused sometime.

I think you're overthinking it. Just use whatever you're comfortable with. And I see no point in separating your mind between "real people" (like tulpas aren't real enough, huh) and tulpas, especially from the language perspective. Why would you want to do that?

I don't know .... I'm overthinking, I will calm down and keep it simple

If you're afraid of confusion - don't worry, you will understand your tulpa, no matter what language they're talking with you. It's more about understanding the thoughts, than understanding the words. For example, me and my host know 4 languages, and we're constantly switching between them in our inside dialogue. There was not a single case of misunderstanding.

thanks

you could try whatever you want, and then decide whether to carry on doing that based on if it goes well and is comfortable to you

7:50 PM

if you try something and you discover that it isn't what you want, you can stop doing that and try something else ^w^

thanks

someone's having a blast i see

Dawn 🕯

Not really, just this server for the most part

Actually it kind of is overall somehow, too. I assume because people have stretched out into too many smaller communities that all couldn't support themselves individually.

I experienced "voices" and "visions" these last years (hallucination ? sickness ? spirits ? imaginary ?) And the concept of Tulpa helped me to "heal"/feel better/accept the "voices" and "visions". I went through hard time because here we are teached that "hearing voices and having visions are just illusion or hallucination and it's a sickness : schizophrenia. I read articles of false diagnosis, some people saw 50 psychiatrist before having the real cause, some people wrote blog and wrote "it's just my imaginary world"; some people were just lonely without enough external stimulation, so "voices" appeared.

7:59 PM

Now I hear and see almost nothing, except when my wish/will is to be with someone, a tulpa.

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

someone's having a blast i see

8:12 PM

And I'm asking myself, maybe the "voices" and "visions" of these last years was tulpa(s) trying to communicate with me ? because I read that brain can create tulpa by itself (edited)

BlastKiller

Now I hear and see almost nothing, except when my wish/will is to be with someone, a tulpa.

That's what makes a big, big difference between tulpa and mental sickness - controllability. It is something that you make by your will, and something that will never harm you (unless you have some very strong self-destructive tendencies, but in that case, making tulpa is the last thing you need to do)

And I'm asking myself, maybe the "voices" and "visions" of these last years was tulpa(s) trying to communicate with me ? because I read that brain can create tulpa by itself

@BlastKiller - jump what you are doing is retroactive interpretation

8:15 PM

it probably wasn’t

thanks

Double downing on that. Not everything that your brain produces is a tulpa - sometimes visions and voices, in one shape or another, are just visions and voices.

Heyy what's up y'all? Sorry for barging in but would it be alright if I asked like 2 or 3 questions about making a tulpa?

ask away It’s a channel for asking questions!

Thank you. I'll try to be brief

don’t worry about bothering anyone!

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11:34 PM

so what are your questions?

I've just been wondering... When you have a tulpa, does it get hard to do social stuff, like going out with friends or hanging out with others? I know some people are able to switch and have their tulpas interact with others. But for people who can't, don't their tulpas get jealous for example?

I haven’t found any difficulty with it. And switching is a learned skill. You just gotta learn it

I see... So your tulpa never got in the way of talking and interacting with others?

not sure why they would?

Kiki-San

I've just been wondering... When you have a tulpa, does it get hard to do social stuff, like going out with friends or hanging out with others? I know some people are able to switch and have their tulpas interact with others. But for people who can't, don't their tulpas get jealous for example?

Tewi: A lot of people report socializing getting easier, as their tulpa may help them with anxiety or depression. (edited)

11:40 PM

Tulpamancy taking up your time is up to you, but there should be plenty of time for both social and non-social (and so tulpa) time in a day.

Skyler 🐉

not sure why they would?

Idk. I would've thought that because they're constantly "on your head" that it might end up interfering when you're trying to talk to someone or smth.

Tewi: Even though our system practices imposition (a controlled skill of convincing yourself you're actually seeing/etc.'ing your system mates in real life), nothing about tulpamancy gets in the way of actual socialization for us, since we tend to only really interact when alone. (edited)

I see

If you're prone to being a shut-in already, I guess having a tulpa might or might not help. But then that's an issue you already had if so.

11:43 PM

Even if it is, you can work on it with your tulpa just as you'd work on it alone without them.

Ok. That's a bit of a relief...

11:47 PM

My main concern about making a tulpa however is about the whole "deviation" thing. How do you deal whenever a Tulpa "deviates" and takes the shape or personality differently than what you originally intended it to be?

11:47 PM

In fact, does such thing happen often with tulpas?

Tewi: It's really just up to your imagination. As part of the development process (namely the start, developing vocality), your thoughts when intending for your tulpa to speak such as "I think that was my tulpa!", "I think that was just random fluff thoughts", or "My tulpa wouldn't want to say that." are a huge part of what shapes the idea of "your tulpa" in your mind. Some people prefer "letting their tulpa decide everything" ie leaving everything to their imagination early on, but that's not necessary, and honestly before your tulpa is clearly vocal I'd say it's not even a particularly good practice. Before they're well-established (developed) in your mind, there's not really a reason to give strong weight to what they may or may not say. You should still treat them as trying to speak and interact, but sort of like a baby's "googoo gaga"s, until they're able to speak clearly and consistently make sense, with a sense of self and all that. (edited)

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11:58 PM

TL;DR Deviation is more often than not just your imagination, and you can choose to think of it as your tulpa's choice if you want, or not. Later your tulpa may actually want to change things about themselves, but you don't truly have to take unexpected changes seriously until they're vocal and able to converse with you clearly. (Unless you want to)

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Oh wow. Thanks for the detailed response

12:02 AM

So I guess it's not really that big deal when creating one. Just once it has already developed enough...

12:03 AM

Well, I still have a few concerns about but those were my main questions.

12:03 AM

Thanks again for the response ❤️

this may be unrelated to tulpas

1:13 AM

but how to stop self doubt that we are a system

1:13 AM

a tulpa one

1:14 AM

i hate being endo, i dont want to be a traumagenic system of course but seeing people calling tulpa systems "fakers" makes me doubt myself (edited)

1:16 AM

i probably should stop reading the posts from r/systemscringe or r/fakedisordercringe

1:16 AM

bc they are really really toxic

One thing to remember is that people will call anything "fake" just so they can play the victim. And yea, that's probably a good idea.

i have stopped calling myself a system because i dont want to be related to this plural war of endogenic vs traumagenic

Or it somehow makes them feel better about their day that they have "exposed" the faker.

and because i dont want to people compare me to did

does it matter if you're a system at all? Your personal experience wouldn't change even if you technically weren't a system, or you were a different sort of system

People will be people. Some people are going to make you feel bad, no matter what. They aren't who you listen to though. You listen to those voices in your life who matter!

my system didn't even know any of the terms for the first 5 years we were plural, because we didn't tell anyone about it or look at any online resources or communities, and our take on it is that our experience just is what it is, regardless of what anyone calls it

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

does it matter if you're a system at all? Your personal experience wouldn't change even if you technically weren't a system, or you were a different sort of system

what you are saying is true

1:21 AM

maybe i should take a break from reddit

Stepping away from there sometimes is a good thing, I think.

and stop reading things sysmeds say

Kissa

Stepping away from there sometimes is a good thing, I think.

yes

Just remember. They don't know you. They aren't you, so anything they have to say about you is invaild.

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i also dont want to be called a system because sometimes it seems like systems take themselves way too seriously

1:23 AM

and yes, i know this is something serious

1:23 AM

but its like i cant goof around

1:24 AM

or do something that is kinda dumb

1:24 AM

and i speak this way even about non traumagenic systems

Is there another term used in the community that works?

Adeus.

maybe i should take a break from reddit

some of the greatest things have begun with those very words

Kissa

Is there another term used in the community that works?

i will think about it

1:27 AM

i also have fear of this plurality thing becoming my whole identity, but its probably inevitable (edited)

Adeus.

i also have fear of this plurality thing becoming my whole identity, but its probably inevitable (edited)

what does it becoming your whole identity look like to you?

it looks like these people who think they are special for having it or smth

1:32 AM

maybe its not that

1:32 AM

necessarily

1:32 AM

but idk how to explain it

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

what does it becoming your whole identity look like to you?

it makes me feel kinda cringe

It's no surprise visiting a subreddit dedicated to mocking a group you belong to feels bad I'd really recommend not just a break, but don't go back to it at all

i meam

1:34 AM

mean *

1:34 AM

i wont go back to the sub

1:34 AM

but im thinking of taking a break from reddit in general

1:35 AM

even the good subs bc i dont wanna run the risk of ...reading something like this again even once

Tewi: Considering it's not something we ever run into, it's definitely a problem of the places you're looking. (edited)

Is there a way to do more passive style forcing? I am always busy, so I don’t really have time to sit down and do a long forcing session with my tulpa. So I guess what I am asking is would a style like that work and would it effect the time it takes for my tulpa to become vocal?

Tewi: I think some initial dedicated forcing sessions are always necessary for a from-scratch tulpa, but after some initial work, just taking a moment here and there throughout the day to try to speak with your tulpa should be enough eventually. If we're talking more than 30 seconds, that's literally just forcing, no need to even call it "passive". Less than that, well, try to do it often and at least focus well when you do. (edited)